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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Jeff_O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff_O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughtful comments, Bill. Appreciate you sharing the challenges too.

Jeff Ogden</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Bill Binch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Binch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff
Thought provoking topic as the next generation of sales reps evolve.  I&#039;d imagine this will stir up some solid ideas and opinions.  

I agree that a modern rep needs to be connected, but there&#039;s also a dilemma here -- a dilemma I call the &quot;too busy to sell&quot; dilemma.  Reps have to be great prospectors, know how to qualify, drive a sales cycle, do the demo, work with partners, manage internal resources, forecast accurately, compete, negotiate, close and then make their customers happy.  Essentially the rep gets so busy doing these things they have no time left to go sell something new.

In addition to that light-lifting, they need to be hooked in on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Chatter, their blog, etc., to stay on top of their industry/market/competitors.

Just like mobile devices were supposed to make us more efficient but really just made us more available, and hence more busy, that concern holds for social media.  

One idea I&#039;ve seen popping up lately is the Social Media manager role within a company.  Whether it&#039;s someone in sales, marketing, or support, having a &quot;listener&quot; of the social media outlets is a good idea.  This person serves as the air-traffic controller for the organization and in some cases acts as the voice for the company.

There are also some great new technologies out there that enable &quot;listening&quot; to the social media outlets (disclaimer: I&#039;m with Marketo which provides some of these capabilities) that can help make this easier as well.  

I thought there were some very insightful comments to the question, thought I&#039;d pose one of the challenges to implementing the idea.
Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff<br />
Thought provoking topic as the next generation of sales reps evolve.  I&#8217;d imagine this will stir up some solid ideas and opinions.  </p>
<p>I agree that a modern rep needs to be connected, but there&#8217;s also a dilemma here &#8212; a dilemma I call the &#8220;too busy to sell&#8221; dilemma.  Reps have to be great prospectors, know how to qualify, drive a sales cycle, do the demo, work with partners, manage internal resources, forecast accurately, compete, negotiate, close and then make their customers happy.  Essentially the rep gets so busy doing these things they have no time left to go sell something new.</p>
<p>In addition to that light-lifting, they need to be hooked in on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Chatter, their blog, etc., to stay on top of their industry/market/competitors.</p>
<p>Just like mobile devices were supposed to make us more efficient but really just made us more available, and hence more busy, that concern holds for social media.  </p>
<p>One idea I&#8217;ve seen popping up lately is the Social Media manager role within a company.  Whether it&#8217;s someone in sales, marketing, or support, having a &#8220;listener&#8221; of the social media outlets is a good idea.  This person serves as the air-traffic controller for the organization and in some cases acts as the voice for the company.</p>
<p>There are also some great new technologies out there that enable &#8220;listening&#8221; to the social media outlets (disclaimer: I&#8217;m with Marketo which provides some of these capabilities) that can help make this easier as well.  </p>
<p>I thought there were some very insightful comments to the question, thought I&#8217;d pose one of the challenges to implementing the idea.<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Cheryl Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Great insights! 

Tom Pick is right, &quot;go where the fish are&quot;.

Today&#039;s buyers are not just attending conferences or sitting in their offices they&#039;re online. 

Shortening sales cycles means focusing on the social buying process. People increasingly rely on advice from their peers, which is regarded and believed to be more trustworthy.  The crucial component is trust. Word of mouth, more customer-centric and social will help shorten the sales cycles.  

Cheryl
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Great insights! </p>
<p>Tom Pick is right, &#8220;go where the fish are&#8221;.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s buyers are not just attending conferences or sitting in their offices they&#8217;re online. </p>
<p>Shortening sales cycles means focusing on the social buying process. People increasingly rely on advice from their peers, which is regarded and believed to be more trustworthy.  The crucial component is trust. Word of mouth, more customer-centric and social will help shorten the sales cycles.  </p>
<p>Cheryl<br />
@ckburgess</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Jeff_O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff_O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Alex. We really appreciate input, particularly from very senior sales executives like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alex. We really appreciate input, particularly from very senior sales executives like you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Alex Shootman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Shootman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff this is quality insight and timely.  As our sales team bumps up against the limits of legacy prospecting techniques they need to deploy an entire new set of skills to stimulate latent demand.  

In fact we are beginning to interview and test for these skills in the hiring process.  There is clearly a market for professionals to help sales people build these skills.  This could be tough, as you know, sales people do not readily embrace areas where they might look stupid; but they are going to have to do this.  Where we are going we have to change the people or change the people...

Very provocative - another reason I like the content in the B2B Sales Lounge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff this is quality insight and timely.  As our sales team bumps up against the limits of legacy prospecting techniques they need to deploy an entire new set of skills to stimulate latent demand.  </p>
<p>In fact we are beginning to interview and test for these skills in the hiring process.  There is clearly a market for professionals to help sales people build these skills.  This could be tough, as you know, sales people do not readily embrace areas where they might look stupid; but they are going to have to do this.  Where we are going we have to change the people or change the people&#8230;</p>
<p>Very provocative &#8211; another reason I like the content in the B2B Sales Lounge</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Jeff_O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff_O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your kind words, Tom. Much appreciated.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Dan McDade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan McDade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, you are spot on and as usual I enjoy reading your take on the invisible sales person.  I recently did a similar analysis for a large software company&#039;s partners and found them to be equally invisible.  What I said to that group was increased activity in LinkedIn and other social media communities will increase the chances that you will be found.  If you don&#039;t want to be found, stay invisible.  I would add that each sales person (and really each individual in every company owes it to themselves and their company to perfect their brand on LinkedIn.  Thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you are spot on and as usual I enjoy reading your take on the invisible sales person.  I recently did a similar analysis for a large software company&#8217;s partners and found them to be equally invisible.  What I said to that group was increased activity in LinkedIn and other social media communities will increase the chances that you will be found.  If you don&#8217;t want to be found, stay invisible.  I would add that each sales person (and really each individual in every company owes it to themselves and their company to perfect their brand on LinkedIn.  Thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Kelley Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelley Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, 

From a sales perspective, I&#039;m not entirely sure that sales people need to have an online presence because I&#039;m not sold that the average buyer is looking for a specific sales person when considering a purchase. I suspect they are more likely to seek out companies who offer a particular solution.

However, having said that, becoming visible could help them land a position more quickly if they end up leaving their employer (by choice or not). Most people know that tha majority of jobs are found via networking so an online presence could be important and instrumental in reducing the length of time a person is in transition.

Does it sound like I&#039;m waffling? Yes, because I&#039;m not entirely sold that being visible online will help the average sales person improve their sales results. It certainly does for experts and people who run their own business. I&#039;m still not convinced it&#039;s necessary for sales reps who work for an employer.

Good debate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, </p>
<p>From a sales perspective, I&#8217;m not entirely sure that sales people need to have an online presence because I&#8217;m not sold that the average buyer is looking for a specific sales person when considering a purchase. I suspect they are more likely to seek out companies who offer a particular solution.</p>
<p>However, having said that, becoming visible could help them land a position more quickly if they end up leaving their employer (by choice or not). Most people know that tha majority of jobs are found via networking so an online presence could be important and instrumental in reducing the length of time a person is in transition.</p>
<p>Does it sound like I&#8217;m waffling? Yes, because I&#8217;m not entirely sold that being visible online will help the average sales person improve their sales results. It certainly does for experts and people who run their own business. I&#8217;m still not convinced it&#8217;s necessary for sales reps who work for an employer.</p>
<p>Good debate!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Tom Pick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Pick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I should mention - love the blog, and thanks for another excellent post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I should mention &#8211; love the blog, and thanks for another excellent post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Invisible Sales Rep by Tom Pick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Pick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tony and Jeff for mentioning the Aggregage white paper - it is a valuable resource that I believe the readers here will find helpful.

To address some of the specific points raised in the post: first, as a professional sales person, you have built up a wealth of knowledge over the years. You share it with your prospects every day. Sharing just a bit of that through social means, such as a blog (not too much; there&#039;s no need to give away &quot;secrets&quot; to your competitors) will help you get found and make you stand out as a knowledgeable resource.

Second, when fishing, the first rule is to &quot;go where the fish are.&quot; Your prospects are now online, using search, Twitter and other social networks. If you&#039;re not there, you are not only missing out on some priceless intelligence (learning about the needs they are talking about in these venues) but also leaving the best spots on the lake to other fishermen, so to speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tony and Jeff for mentioning the Aggregage white paper &#8211; it is a valuable resource that I believe the readers here will find helpful.</p>
<p>To address some of the specific points raised in the post: first, as a professional sales person, you have built up a wealth of knowledge over the years. You share it with your prospects every day. Sharing just a bit of that through social means, such as a blog (not too much; there&#8217;s no need to give away &#8220;secrets&#8221; to your competitors) will help you get found and make you stand out as a knowledgeable resource.</p>
<p>Second, when fishing, the first rule is to &#8220;go where the fish are.&#8221; Your prospects are now online, using search, Twitter and other social networks. If you&#8217;re not there, you are not only missing out on some priceless intelligence (learning about the needs they are talking about in these venues) but also leaving the best spots on the lake to other fishermen, so to speak.</p>
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